Today in Scout news: When I went out with her breakfast, she was across the street and she softly woofed some hellos at me and wagged her tail. She wouldn’t approach me or come over to eat until I went back inside but the tail wagging had me falling down giddy.
Anyway, what is everyone’s recommendations for the least costly dewormer (intestinal parasites)? I already dosed her biscuit with Ivomec this morning so I’m good there and I have Frontline if I can get close to her at some point. I need to shop online for a cheap dewormer that does the job.
Fenbendazole, sold as Panacur or Safeguard. If you have a feed store nearby, you can by the very inexpensive equine version (@ $11/tube for 1000 lb horse) and dose her at 2.5-3x the label recommendation for weight. We use this all the time on our rescue dogs.
Have you tried sitting down at a “safe” distance NOT facing her, and let her come up to you on her own terms and sniff you? Direct eye contact can be very scary, she’d probably be happy to approach you from the back or the side and give you a good long sniff. And if you just happened to have a really tasty goodie in your hand that she could safely take, she might think you’re a bit of alright! :)
Good luck!
I’m seeing recommendations for more like 10X the horse dose if using it for dogs. Roughly 20mg/pound body weight. You only use 2.5 to 3X the dosage?
I think there’s a mistranslation there somewhere. I’m talking equine paste wormers, not powders or granules. The equine dose is at 10%, the canine dose is at 22%. Both are based on body weight, we adjusted up accordingly and our vet agreed with us. It seems to be working just fine so far!
If you used 10x the horse dose, you’d be feeding the whole tube of paste for a 1000 lb horse to a 100 lb dog (which is what I have) and I think you might want to re-think that one. That’s an AWFUL LOT of paste to feed one dog at one time! :)
Oops, make that “you can buy” not “by”!
http://www.pets-megastore.com.au/index.php?cPath=165_161
I’ve never quite made the leap to the horse tubes so this is my compromise for dog/dose specific but cheaper prices. Doubt the dewormer alone would be cheaper but I get my HW meds here at a great discount and no script needed and tack on whatever else I need. A little planning and a pretty nice savings.
If you email me privately I will send you some Sentinel that I don;t need.. oral.. and a good product for all sorts of worms.. I can overnight it to you.. I am not using it..I can send you a capstar too to get rid of the fleas mshe hsa now.. she shoudl be tested foHW before any preventative is given .. so says the insert.. BUT at this juncute what is lesser of two “weevils”??
How it works:
Milbemycin oxime eliminates the tissue stage of heartworm larvae and the adult stage of hookworm, roundworm, and whipworm infestations. Lufenuron, the other active ingredient, is an insect development inhibitor that breaks the flea life cycle by inhibiting egg development. Lufenuron prevents most flea eggs from hatching or maturing into adults and thus prevents and controls flea populations by breaking the life cycle.
For a complete flea control program, Sentinel may be given along with Capstar (sold separately), which treats flea infestation.
Thank you!
I know the ideal is to test for HW first but I’m making some assumptions that she is a young dog, probably HW +, probably still only mild due to age. I’m further assuming I will never be able to afford traditional HW treatment (the injections) nor do I have any way of confining her for the crate rest required afterward. It’s possible that might change in future but since it’s unknown, I decided better to get on the ball now.
If I’m wrong on her being positive, the Ivomec will just serve as a “preventive”. If she is positive, Ivomec will eventually kill the heartworms but the disease will progress until that happens (2 years from what I read). As you say, choosing the lesser evil, and probably the only practical alternative to non-treatment of any kind.
A few years ago I had a friend who was trying to tame a feral cat (remarkably she did). We contacted a friend who is a vet tech. She needed only a teaspoon or so and the friend was glad to supply it rather than having to buy a whole bottle.
Hurray! Sounds like she was happy to see her breakfast, and hopefully you as well. Maybe sooner than later she will let you stay in the vicinity of her eating…
Fingers crossed.
Have to agree with Miz. Panacur is cheap, very effective against a wide variety of parasites, safe safe safe and safe. Toxic dose is something like 200X effective dose.
I love panacur. My sister uses it on her horses and I’ve used that paste on dogs I’ve taken in. I’ve also used it on reptiles with no problem.
I really appreciate all the great suggestions I’ve received on Scout from you guys – both on dewormers and other things. Thank you so much.
Miz Says:
August 9, 2010 at 12:44 am
I think there’s a mistranslation there somewhere.
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OK, here’s my math. Please (anyone) double check me:
The horse paste is 100mg/gram and comes in a 25 gram tube.
Reference: http://www.horse.com/item/panacur-paste/SLT790108/
Dosage for dogs is approx. 25 mg per pound (50 mg/kg) daily for three consecutive days.
References: http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/fenbendazole-panacur/page1.aspx
and here (you have to scroll down a bit to get to the dog dosage on this page as it starts out with dosages for lions & tigers & bears!)
So a 100 pound dog needs a dose of 2500 mg. That would be the entire tube of the horse paste (one tube each day for 3 days).
For horses, the dosage is 2.3 mg/lb. (5 mg/kg)
Reference: http://www.horse.com/item/panacur-paste/SLT790108/
So the horse dosage is approximately 1/10th the dog dosage.
Okay, late here —
Get the *goat* fenbendazole.
dosage here: http://www.beaglesunlimited.com/health/canine-intestinal-worms-and-inexpensive-treatment
For a dog with a suspected big parasite load and the possibility of giardia, I do:
5 days of fenbendazole
three weeks off
5 days of fenbendazole
three months off
5 days of fenbendazole
And it cleans them the hell out without any side effects or toxicity. I had to do this protocol to clear out the galloping whipworms after bringing home the three ONB fosters.
Thanks Heather. I was thinking of doing 3 rounds, 3 months between each. Always glad to hear of experiences that have worked for others. btw, the link says they use horse/cattle version of fenbendazole (not goat).