15 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Are there any No Kill advocates out there who are trying to reform a taxpayer-funded shelter operated via contract by a 501c3 nonprofit? If so, I would love to hear your experiences and lessons learned. Thanks!

    1. I read this comment on Nathan J. Winograd facebook wall date, 11/25/14:

      Question: Are there any laws that cover 501c[3] get their money from city and county agencies?

      Answer: Especially if they have contracts for animal control, Section 1983 has been held to apply to both government shelters and private SPCAs. See Allen v Pennsylvania Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, 488 F. Supp, 2d 450 (M. D. Penn. 2007); Brunette v. Humane Society of Ventura County, 294 F. 3d 1205 (9th Cir. 2002); and Snead v. Society for the prevention of Cruelty to Animals, 929 A. 2d 1169 (Pa. Sup. Ct. 2007)

      I haven’t read these yet but will read them at the public library. Usually librarians can help anyone who is interested find these cases (if the law library is located in a public library) or possibly google the cases. Or some communities may have access to cases in court houses…

      1. Thank you! I am aware that that those laws apply to humane societies. The battle for transparency and access to pets being killed feels different when the group doing the killing can hide behind the name “humane society”…I think it leads people to falsely assume that the humane society is “doing all they can” because, you know, they are a “humane society.” I’m wondering how others have dealt with high-kill “humane societies.”

    1. This is a fantastic story, thanks for posting! Faithful Friends is headed by Jane Pierantozzi — I read about her several years ago when she helped spearhead the passage of CAPA legislation in Delaware and won the Henry Bergh Award from the No Kill Advocacy Center.

    2. This is amazing. Not only are they helping the dog, but also helping his person. There are good people out there, mostly folks who are just average people. The big bucks organizations and 1% ought to hang their head in shame. Can you imagine what could have been accomplished with the millions and millions of dollars that politicians and their handlers spent on campaigns? There’s plenty of money in this country – just happens to be in the hands of too few people. God bless all who are doing genuine good.

      1. Yes, Faithful Friends Animal Society (Wilmington, DE) believes that if you provide services aimed at reducing owner relinquishment of pets by addressing some of the reasons people give up pets, then fewer pets will enter animal shelter systems. FFAS has a free pet food pantry (when it has enough donated food to give), affordable veterinary services (spay/neuter, vaccines, dentals, exams), a hot line for people to call in and ask questions or seek advice with pet issues, The Pit Stop group that focuses on issues related to pit bull type dogs (like offering owners free spay/neuter to be in compliance with breed-specific legislation within Wilmington city limits). I’m more impressed with this organization the more I learn and become involved as a volunteer, donor and board member.

  2. Justice for Dexter and Della. Jill Ryther’s non profit organization EARN will file a lawsuit against kern county probation department and officer Carlos Sillas for the unjustified killing of my beloved queensland Dexter and injurying his daughter Della.

  3. PS This is Joe, a purebred elderly boxer in Nashville who got left behind at the shelter with his brother Liam, the teacup Irish Wolfhound. He is looking for a place to call home in the Nashville area. Please email amy@bigfluffydogs.com if you are interested.

    Saw this on Big Fluffy Dog Rescue facebook page. The picture of this old guy breaks my heart. Hoping someone in the Nashville area will check him out. He surely deserves a place to live out his remaining years in comfort, with love.

    Please spread the word. This guy has touched my heart . . .

      1. Wondered if you would see that. Other than disagreeing with them about their position on no-kill, these folks do amazing things for animals and helping shelters who desperately need the help. Please don’t judge them on this one post. I believe that they do believe that no-kill/low-kill is the goal, but if you look at the hundreds of responses, there is so much misinformation about what it means that we need to get the word out. Sometimes animals who are hopelessly hurt or sick or cannot be rehabilitated need to be released from their bodies. I agree with that. But doing nothing by spay/neuter won’t solve the problem. It’s a multi-prong approach and I think that came out. They really are good people.

      2. I don’t doubt your belief that they are good people. It’s sad to me that they provide a link to No Kill 101, then summarize it as something like “just don’t kill animals”. That is misinformation and leads me to believe they themselves did not read the link they shared but decided to summarize it anyway or they read it but decided to grossly mischaracterize it for whatever reason. Either way, it’s spreading false information, which we have too much of already.

  4. I follow Big Fluffy Dog Rescue on Facebook, so I’ve been posting some basic tenets of the no-kill movement on this thread. There are so many comments at this point that I don’t know if many people will read what I write, but it might do some good.

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