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A friend, I think you know her, got all sorts of crap for wanting to outcross flatcoats so they don’t die so horribly young. The AKC and its connections worldwide are crazy nuts.
One of the things I like about Cider’s breeder is that, when I ever so cautiously suggested that some breeds need outcrossing if they’re to survive, she and her partner in the breed thought for a long moment, and then said, you’d have to track it very carefully, and record everything.
Which I agree with, and said so.
And I have just been notified my new glasses are ready! Like, this second! (We have no one left to outcross Sapiens with, to improve eyesight.)
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Anyone who looks at the small gene pool that Flatcoats have along with the high incidence of malignant histiocytoma and other cancers and decides outcrossing is a bad idea is a science denier. It’s an unserious position.
With your new glasses, you can at least determine which sapiens you might want to use in your breeding program 😁
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Well, yes, they are science deniers, sadly. But once you commit to the closed studbook as a thing you believe in, not something you deal with because you love your breed and AKC currently requires it, science denial is the only leg you have to stand on.
The Finns, though have decided to defy prevailing attitudes and try experimentally outcrossing Cavaliers, the breed with the highest COI. The Finnish Cavalier people finally got sick of their dogs suffering, I guess.
Lovely dogs, but many seem to already have distressingly short heads.
Now, of course, it’s a breed desperately in need of well-planned outcrossing. You won’t let anyone rip me to shreds for such heresy, will you?
It’s not heresy to want an end to dogs suffering because their heads are too small for their brains.
A friend, I think you know her, got all sorts of crap for wanting to outcross flatcoats so they don’t die so horribly young. The AKC and its connections worldwide are crazy nuts.
One of the things I like about Cider’s breeder is that, when I ever so cautiously suggested that some breeds need outcrossing if they’re to survive, she and her partner in the breed thought for a long moment, and then said, you’d have to track it very carefully, and record everything.
Which I agree with, and said so.
And I have just been notified my new glasses are ready! Like, this second! (We have no one left to outcross Sapiens with, to improve eyesight.)
Anyone who looks at the small gene pool that Flatcoats have along with the high incidence of malignant histiocytoma and other cancers and decides outcrossing is a bad idea is a science denier. It’s an unserious position.
With your new glasses, you can at least determine which sapiens you might want to use in your breeding program 😁
Well, yes, they are science deniers, sadly. But once you commit to the closed studbook as a thing you believe in, not something you deal with because you love your breed and AKC currently requires it, science denial is the only leg you have to stand on.
The Finns, though have decided to defy prevailing attitudes and try experimentally outcrossing Cavaliers, the breed with the highest COI. The Finnish Cavalier people finally got sick of their dogs suffering, I guess.